Discussion:
How to post replies here properly
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Ray Bramton
2007-07-18 15:40:43 UTC
Permalink
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper manner,
I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with LinuxQuestions.org and I
want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so here I am.
I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject header prepended
with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the appropriate subject but
it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and the reply doesn't show up at
the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead of time.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ian Malone
2007-07-18 16:15:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper manner,
I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with LinuxQuestions.org and I
want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so here I am.
I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject header prepended
with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the appropriate subject but
it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and the reply doesn't show up at
the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead of time.
Surely just hit 'R' to reply to the message? You should not
even need 'reply all' as fedora-list appears to set the reply-to.
It sounds like you're composing your emails as new and
giving them the corresponding subject; this loses the
in-reply-to message header which mailreaders (and list
archives) use for threading.
--
imalone
Ray Bramton
2007-07-18 16:43:58 UTC
Permalink
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris Jones
2007-07-18 17:02:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
Firefox is a web browser, not a mail reader - So you must be going to
some web site to view the emails ;) Which one do you use...

As a previous poster said, the best way to reply to a email is to
properly reply to it - In the sense of hit the reply button of your
favourite email reader.

If you want to do this via the web then maybe there is a better web site
you can use that lets you reply ? I don't use it myself but a lot of
people on the list seem to use gmail (at least it comes up quite
frequently).

Chris
Ray Bramton
2007-07-18 17:08:45 UTC
Permalink
Okay, thanks for the replies. I turned emails back on and I'll try this.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Post by Chris Jones
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
Firefox is a web browser, not a mail reader - So you must be going to
some web site to view the emails ;) Which one do you use...
As a previous poster said, the best way to reply to a email is to
properly reply to it - In the sense of hit the reply button of your
favourite email reader.
If you want to do this via the web then maybe there is a better web site
you can use that lets you reply ? I don't use it myself but a lot of
people on the list seem to use gmail (at least it comes up quite
frequently).
Chris
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fedora-list mailing list
fedora-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Ray Bramton
2007-07-18 17:08:45 UTC
Permalink
Okay, thanks for the replies. I turned emails back on and I'll try this.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Post by Chris Jones
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
Firefox is a web browser, not a mail reader - So you must be going to
some web site to view the emails ;) Which one do you use...
As a previous poster said, the best way to reply to a email is to
properly reply to it - In the sense of hit the reply button of your
favourite email reader.
If you want to do this via the web then maybe there is a better web site
you can use that lets you reply ? I don't use it myself but a lot of
people on the list seem to use gmail (at least it comes up quite
frequently).
Chris
--
fedora-list mailing list
fedora-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Phil Meyer
2007-07-18 17:15:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
First, use an internet based email server that supports IMAP, or at
least supports POP3 with the option to leave messages on the server.
There are a diminishing number of ISPs that would support an active
mailing list such as this one. You will have to ask your ISP for advice
there.

To read the list use a threaded email reader, such as thunderbird.

There is no good way to 'enter into' an existing thread unless you are
reading it with a mail reader.

Lots of folks read the list via a web browser, and thats a good thing.
However, in order to actively participate, it really requires that you
follow along in a mail reader instead. Otherwise, the best you can do
is start a topic.

For those that have more bandwidth, and are willing to allow inbound
smtp to a system that is managed properly, the process is a dream.

Use procmail to organize your mailing lists into different mailboxes.
Then using an IMAP server, and an IMAP client, it is possible to
subscribe to these other mail boxes. Makes it nice.


Good Luck!
Raman Gupta
2007-07-18 17:22:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Phil Meyer
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm
using Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting
me a WHOLE lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up
connection. Also I didn't want to sort through all those emails when
I could just open the page with Firefox when I want to see all the
posts. I want to be able to see if there's a reply to my posts only
with email notification, like with LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not
possible?
There is no good way to 'enter into' an existing thread unless you are
reading it with a mail reader.
Incorrect. You can sign up on Nabble [1]. Once you do, subscribe to
fedora-list through their interface, and turn off mailing list
delivery. This way, all mailing list posts will go only to nabble and
not to your personal email address. Nabble allows you to reply to
mailing list posts online, and get notifications of replies to your
mailbox as well, if you so choose.

I do not work for nabble and I am not associated with them in any way
(other than as a user...)

Cheers,
Raman Gupta


[1] http://www.nabble.com/
Raman Gupta
2007-07-18 17:22:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Phil Meyer
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm
using Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting
me a WHOLE lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up
connection. Also I didn't want to sort through all those emails when
I could just open the page with Firefox when I want to see all the
posts. I want to be able to see if there's a reply to my posts only
with email notification, like with LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not
possible?
There is no good way to 'enter into' an existing thread unless you are
reading it with a mail reader.
Incorrect. You can sign up on Nabble [1]. Once you do, subscribe to
fedora-list through their interface, and turn off mailing list
delivery. This way, all mailing list posts will go only to nabble and
not to your personal email address. Nabble allows you to reply to
mailing list posts online, and get notifications of replies to your
mailbox as well, if you so choose.

I do not work for nabble and I am not associated with them in any way
(other than as a user...)

Cheers,
Raman Gupta


[1] http://www.nabble.com/
Les Mikesell
2007-07-18 17:40:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
If everyone did that there wouldn't _be_ any replies.
--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
Ian Malone
2007-07-18 22:11:25 UTC
Permalink
On 18/07/07, Ray Bramton <rbandmb at wfeca.net> wrote:

<It's apparent from below that you don't get quotes
for free, but if threading is broken it's even more important
that you copy a little context in.>
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
Is Gmail usable over your connection? I point my
subscription to Gmail and tell it to put all Fedora-list
mails in a folder. Then I can use their interface to
pick and choose which conversations to look at.

(I do have Thunderbird set up to get mails from Gmail
too, but only headers, the bodies aren't downloaded
until I ask for them. That might still be quite slow over
dialup though.)
--
imalone
Chris Jones
2007-07-18 17:02:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
Firefox is a web browser, not a mail reader - So you must be going to
some web site to view the emails ;) Which one do you use...

As a previous poster said, the best way to reply to a email is to
properly reply to it - In the sense of hit the reply button of your
favourite email reader.

If you want to do this via the web then maybe there is a better web site
you can use that lets you reply ? I don't use it myself but a lot of
people on the list seem to use gmail (at least it comes up quite
frequently).

Chris
Phil Meyer
2007-07-18 17:15:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
First, use an internet based email server that supports IMAP, or at
least supports POP3 with the option to leave messages on the server.
There are a diminishing number of ISPs that would support an active
mailing list such as this one. You will have to ask your ISP for advice
there.

To read the list use a threaded email reader, such as thunderbird.

There is no good way to 'enter into' an existing thread unless you are
reading it with a mail reader.

Lots of folks read the list via a web browser, and thats a good thing.
However, in order to actively participate, it really requires that you
follow along in a mail reader instead. Otherwise, the best you can do
is start a topic.

For those that have more bandwidth, and are willing to allow inbound
smtp to a system that is managed properly, the process is a dream.

Use procmail to organize your mailing lists into different mailboxes.
Then using an IMAP server, and an IMAP client, it is possible to
subscribe to these other mail boxes. Makes it nice.


Good Luck!
Les Mikesell
2007-07-18 17:40:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
If everyone did that there wouldn't _be_ any replies.
--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
Ian Malone
2007-07-18 22:11:25 UTC
Permalink
On 18/07/07, Ray Bramton <rbandmb at wfeca.net> wrote:

<It's apparent from below that you don't get quotes
for free, but if threading is broken it's even more important
that you copy a little context in.>
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?
Is Gmail usable over your connection? I point my
subscription to Gmail and tell it to put all Fedora-list
mails in a folder. Then I can use their interface to
pick and choose which conversations to look at.

(I do have Thunderbird set up to get mails from Gmail
too, but only headers, the bodies aren't downloaded
until I ask for them. That might still be quite slow over
dialup though.)
--
imalone
ne...
2007-07-18 17:36:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper manner,
Do not top post. Many of us here read loads of posts per day and
follow many topics. We have no time to keep the context in our heads.
Quote what is necessary and trim the rest _including_ signatures. I
delete threads where people top post.
Post by Ray Bramton
I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject header prepended
with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the appropriate subject but
it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and the reply doesn't show up at
the bottom of the thread.
As has been stated before, there is no need to do that. The fedora
lists have the reply-to set and modern e-mail software know how to use
this.
Post by Ray Bramton
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That .sig is 7 lines long, 3 more than is necessary. Plus it does not
have the correct .sig seperator - 2dashes (-ve sign) a space and hard
return. Please set yours up properly.

ne...
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Certified: 75% bastard, 42% of which is tard.
http://www.thespark.com/bastardtest
Now accepting personal mail for GMail invites.
stan
2007-07-18 19:58:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper
manner, I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with
LinuxQuestions.org and I want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so
here I am. I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject
header prepended with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the
appropriate subject but it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and
the reply doesn't show up at the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead
of time.
Another alternative is to use the pan newsreader.

yum install pan

Run pan from Internet -> pan newsreader

Go to Edit -> Edit newsservers

Add news.gmane.org, the rest of the defaults should be OK.

Now go to the group pane. Click on Other Groups. Then in the little
box in the upper left that has group name in gray, type gmane to see
all the gmane groups or gmane.linux.redhat.fedor.general to see only
this group.

Click on the name, and a dialog box will come up. Accept the default
by hitting enter.

You will now be in the header pane with a threaded list of all the
emails from this list. All of the pan newsreader commands are now
available to read them.

If you want to reply to a posting/email, click Post -> Reply to author
in mail. That will bring up a separate window for pan with
For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
in the Mail to field.

Now it is just sending an email. Actually this is a test of it all as
I haven't used it before. If this shows up on the list, the above
method works. :-)

When I clicked post article in the pan article window, it launched my
default mail client and put the message in it.

And, as I suspected might happen, the To address failed. I was hoping
the client was smart enough to parse it, but it isn't. So you'll have
to edit the extraneous garbage out of the To address, then send.
i.e. Delete the "For users of Fedora <" and the trailing ">" leaving
only fedora-list at redhat.com

Maybe there is a way to set up pan to do this for you when sending to
a mail client.

This method is of course applicable to any newsreader software you
might prefer allowing for different setup. Newsreaders are time tested
for dealing with high volume groups.
stan
2007-07-18 20:13:28 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:58:04 -0700
Post by stan
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper
manner, I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with
LinuxQuestions.org and I want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so
here I am. I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject
header prepended with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the
appropriate subject but it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and
the reply doesn't show up at the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead
of time.
Another alternative is to use the pan newsreader.
yum install pan
Run pan from Internet -> pan newsreader
Go to Edit -> Edit newsservers
Add news.gmane.org, the rest of the defaults should be OK.
Now go to the group pane. Click on Other Groups. Then in the little
box in the upper left that has group name in gray, type gmane to see
all the gmane groups or gmane.linux.redhat.fedor.general to see only
this group.
Click on the name, and a dialog box will come up. Accept the default
by hitting enter.
You will now be in the header pane with a threaded list of all the
emails from this list. All of the pan newsreader commands are now
available to read them.
If you want to reply to a posting/email, click Post -> Reply to author
in mail. That will bring up a separate window for pan with
For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
in the Mail to field.
Now it is just sending an email. Actually this is a test of it all as
I haven't used it before. If this shows up on the list, the above
method works. :-)
When I clicked post article in the pan article window, it launched my
default mail client and put the message in it.
And, as I suspected might happen, the To address failed. I was hoping
the client was smart enough to parse it, but it isn't. So you'll have
to edit the extraneous garbage out of the To address, then send.
i.e. Delete the "For users of Fedora <" and the trailing ">" leaving
only fedora-list at redhat.com
Maybe there is a way to set up pan to do this for you when sending to
a mail client.
I forgot a step. If you want to continue to see the group on start,
you will have to subscribe. While in the group, go back to the group
pane. The group should already be highlighted. Right click on it and
select subscribe. It will move up to subscribed groups.
Post by stan
This method is of course applicable to any newsreader software you
might prefer allowing for different setup. Newsreaders are time
tested for dealing with high volume groups.
stan
2007-07-18 20:13:28 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:58:04 -0700
Post by stan
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper
manner, I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with
LinuxQuestions.org and I want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so
here I am. I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject
header prepended with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the
appropriate subject but it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and
the reply doesn't show up at the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead
of time.
Another alternative is to use the pan newsreader.
yum install pan
Run pan from Internet -> pan newsreader
Go to Edit -> Edit newsservers
Add news.gmane.org, the rest of the defaults should be OK.
Now go to the group pane. Click on Other Groups. Then in the little
box in the upper left that has group name in gray, type gmane to see
all the gmane groups or gmane.linux.redhat.fedor.general to see only
this group.
Click on the name, and a dialog box will come up. Accept the default
by hitting enter.
You will now be in the header pane with a threaded list of all the
emails from this list. All of the pan newsreader commands are now
available to read them.
If you want to reply to a posting/email, click Post -> Reply to author
in mail. That will bring up a separate window for pan with
For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
in the Mail to field.
Now it is just sending an email. Actually this is a test of it all as
I haven't used it before. If this shows up on the list, the above
method works. :-)
When I clicked post article in the pan article window, it launched my
default mail client and put the message in it.
And, as I suspected might happen, the To address failed. I was hoping
the client was smart enough to parse it, but it isn't. So you'll have
to edit the extraneous garbage out of the To address, then send.
i.e. Delete the "For users of Fedora <" and the trailing ">" leaving
only fedora-list at redhat.com
Maybe there is a way to set up pan to do this for you when sending to
a mail client.
I forgot a step. If you want to continue to see the group on start,
you will have to subscribe. While in the group, go back to the group
pane. The group should already be highlighted. Right click on it and
select subscribe. It will move up to subscribed groups.
Post by stan
This method is of course applicable to any newsreader software you
might prefer allowing for different setup. Newsreaders are time
tested for dealing with high volume groups.
Ray Bramton
2007-07-18 15:40:43 UTC
Permalink
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper manner,
I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with LinuxQuestions.org and I
want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so here I am.
I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject header prepended
with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the appropriate subject but
it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and the reply doesn't show up at
the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead of time.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ian Malone
2007-07-18 16:15:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper manner,
I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with LinuxQuestions.org and I
want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so here I am.
I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject header prepended
with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the appropriate subject but
it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and the reply doesn't show up at
the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead of time.
Surely just hit 'R' to reply to the message? You should not
even need 'reply all' as fedora-list appears to set the reply-to.
It sounds like you're composing your emails as new and
giving them the corresponding subject; this loses the
in-reply-to message header which mailreaders (and list
archives) use for threading.
--
imalone
Ray Bramton
2007-07-18 16:43:58 UTC
Permalink
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention I'm not using Pine to view posts, I'm using
Firefox. I turned off emails for new posts as this was getting me a WHOLE
lot of emails and this ain't too cool with a dial-up connection. Also I
didn't want to sort through all those emails when I could just open the
page with Firefox when I want to see all the posts. I want to be able to
see if there's a reply to my posts only with email notification, like with
LinuxQuestions.org. Is this not possible?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray aka SharpWarpy
Website: http://www.wfeca.net/users/rbandmb
ICQ # 179134362
Christian, Republican, Pro Life
Registered Linux user 289039
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ne...
2007-07-18 17:36:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper manner,
Do not top post. Many of us here read loads of posts per day and
follow many topics. We have no time to keep the context in our heads.
Quote what is necessary and trim the rest _including_ signatures. I
delete threads where people top post.
Post by Ray Bramton
I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject header prepended
with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the appropriate subject but
it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and the reply doesn't show up at
the bottom of the thread.
As has been stated before, there is no need to do that. The fedora
lists have the reply-to set and modern e-mail software know how to use
this.
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That .sig is 7 lines long, 3 more than is necessary. Plus it does not
have the correct .sig seperator - 2dashes (-ve sign) a space and hard
return. Please set yours up properly.

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Post by Ray Bramton
I'm wondering how I should be posting replies here in the proper
manner, I'm new as of 7-17-07. I am a subscriber with
LinuxQuestions.org and I want to broaden my knowledge of Fedora so
here I am. I use Pine and I tried copying the subject to the subject
header prepended with "Re:" and it showed up in the list under the
appropriate subject but it had "<Possible follow-ups>" above it and
the reply doesn't show up at the bottom of the thread. Thanks ahead
of time.
Another alternative is to use the pan newsreader.

yum install pan

Run pan from Internet -> pan newsreader

Go to Edit -> Edit newsservers

Add news.gmane.org, the rest of the defaults should be OK.

Now go to the group pane. Click on Other Groups. Then in the little
box in the upper left that has group name in gray, type gmane to see
all the gmane groups or gmane.linux.redhat.fedor.general to see only
this group.

Click on the name, and a dialog box will come up. Accept the default
by hitting enter.

You will now be in the header pane with a threaded list of all the
emails from this list. All of the pan newsreader commands are now
available to read them.

If you want to reply to a posting/email, click Post -> Reply to author
in mail. That will bring up a separate window for pan with
For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
in the Mail to field.

Now it is just sending an email. Actually this is a test of it all as
I haven't used it before. If this shows up on the list, the above
method works. :-)

When I clicked post article in the pan article window, it launched my
default mail client and put the message in it.

And, as I suspected might happen, the To address failed. I was hoping
the client was smart enough to parse it, but it isn't. So you'll have
to edit the extraneous garbage out of the To address, then send.
i.e. Delete the "For users of Fedora <" and the trailing ">" leaving
only fedora-list at redhat.com

Maybe there is a way to set up pan to do this for you when sending to
a mail client.

This method is of course applicable to any newsreader software you
might prefer allowing for different setup. Newsreaders are time tested
for dealing with high volume groups.
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