Discussion:
upgrading to fedora 34
Angelo Moreschini
2021-05-14 17:24:42 UTC
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I tried to update my Operative system (fedora 32) to new version fedora 34

After the execution of the automatic procedure (download and restart) .
On the information .... the computer show still : (Fedora 32 Workstation
Edition) ...
Why is this happening ..
What does this mean ??

Thank you for having some information about it ...

Angelo
Angelo Moreschini
2021-05-16 12:10:12 UTC
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it is someone that can give me a clue to understand because after I
upgraded Fedora to 34,
I still continue to read Fedora 32 on the information <the setting> of my
computer ?

Is it really still Fedora 32 or is it only a bad information, that I
receive ?

Thank you

Angelo
Post by Angelo Moreschini
I tried to update my Operative system (fedora 32) to new version fedora 34
After the execution of the automatic procedure (download and restart) .
On the information .... the computer show still : (Fedora 32 Workstation
Edition) ...
Why is this happening ..
What does this mean ??
Thank you for having some information about it ...
Angelo
Andras Simon
2021-05-16 12:28:59 UTC
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
it is someone that can give me a clue to understand because after I
upgraded Fedora to 34,
I still continue to read Fedora 32 on the information <the setting> of my
computer ?
Is it really still Fedora 32 or is it only a bad information, that I
receive ?
What does
cat /etc/redhat-release
say?

Did you follow the instructions here:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ ?

Andras
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Angelo Moreschini
2021-05-20 05:36:40 UTC
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thank you Andras,

The answer is :
*<Fedora release 32 (Thirty Two)>*

seems the upgrading didn't work ...
--------------
I used automatic upgrading for get Fedora 30, 31 and Fedora 32.. ,
In these cas I simply pushed the <button> <Restart & Update>, that is down
the label
<Fedora xx Now Available>...
---
For upgrading to Fedora 34 that is no good (why ?).

Can you suggest to me how I can better control the automatic process (to
upgrading) ??

Thank you
Angelo
Post by Angelo Moreschini
Post by Angelo Moreschini
it is someone that can give me a clue to understand because after I
upgraded Fedora to 34,
I still continue to read Fedora 32 on the information <the setting> of my
computer ?
Is it really still Fedora 32 or is it only a bad information, that I
receive ?
What does
cat /etc/redhat-release
say?
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ ?
Andras
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Ed Greshko
2021-05-20 05:59:31 UTC
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
thank you Andras,
_*<Fedora release 32 (Thirty Two)>*_
seems the upgrading didn't work ...
--------------
I used automatic upgrading for get Fedora 30, 31 and Fedora 32.. ,
In these cas I simply pushed the <button> <Restart & Update>, that is down the label
<Fedora xx Now Available>...
---
For upgrading to Fedora  34 that is no good (why ?).
Can you suggest to me how I can better control the automatic process (to upgrading) ??
Are you using the Workstation edition of Fedora? And, if so, are you using the GUI of Gnome
to perform the upgrade?

I don't use that method since I prefer to watch as much of the process as possible.
You may also wish to go from F32 to F33 first.

What I would do you your case is the following.

From a terminal session.....

sudo dnf update   (to make sure your current system is fully updated)
sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   (just to make sure you have the plug-in installed)

if packages have been updated, then reboot just to make sure changes have taken
effect.

Then, again from the terminal.

sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=34  (or 33 if you want to do it in increments)

when complete

sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot

The system will boot and show the F32 kernel to start with but the upgrade process should begin.

Consult https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ if a package issue is
preventing the upgrade from proceeding without additional parameters being added to the upgrade
command.  A common problem is an issue with a non-fedora repo/package.


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Angelo Moreschini
2021-05-20 13:49:17 UTC
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thank you very much Ed,

I made the manual procedure..,
(using the shutdown -r now -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade
download --releasever=33 )

but after I give the last command :<sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot>
I got the error message : :
\Error: system is not ready for upgrade


:-(

I remember that I renounced to upgrade to Fedora 33
because I had already this problem

...
what it is possible to do ??

thank you

Angelo
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
thank you Andras,
_*<Fedora release 32 (Thirty Two)>*_
seems the upgrading didn't work ...
--------------
I used automatic upgrading for get Fedora 30, 31 and Fedora 32.. ,
In these cas I simply pushed the <button> <Restart & Update>, that is
down the label
Post by Angelo Moreschini
<Fedora xx Now Available>...
---
For upgrading to Fedora 34 that is no good (why ?).
Can you suggest to me how I can better control the automatic process (to
upgrading) ??
Are you using the Workstation edition of Fedora? And, if so, are you using the GUI of Gnome
to perform the upgrade?
I don't use that method since I prefer to watch as much of the process as possible.
You may also wish to go from F32 to F33 first.
What I would do you your case is the following.
From a terminal session.....
sudo dnf update (to make sure your current system is fully updated)
sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade (just to make sure you have
the plug-in installed)
if packages have been updated, then reboot just to make sure changes have taken
effect.
Then, again from the terminal.
sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=34 (or 33 if you want to do
it in increments)
when complete
sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot
The system will boot and show the F32 kernel to start with but the upgrade
process should begin.
Consult
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ if a
package issue is
preventing the upgrade from proceeding without additional parameters being
added to the upgrade
command. A common problem is an issue with a non-fedora repo/package.
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Ed Greshko
2021-05-20 13:55:59 UTC
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
thank you very much Ed,
I made the manual procedure..,
(using the shutdown -r now  -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33  )
but after I give the last command :<sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot>
\Error: system is not ready for upgrade
:-(
I remember that I renounced to upgrade to Fedora 33
because I had already this problem
...
what it is possible to do  ??
Oh, so you've seen this error before?

The error message is seems rather vague.  Is there anything in the journal that may shed
some light?

How about your current disk space?

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Angelo Moreschini
2021-05-20 16:29:44 UTC
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this is the situation... :

***@pluto:~$ df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use%
Mounted on
devtmpfs 4020632 0 4020632 0%
/dev
tmpfs 4039784 21324 4018460 1%
/dev/shm
tmpfs 4039784 1876 4037908 1%
/run
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 71724152 59738420 8299332 88% /
tmpfs 4039784 108 4039676 1%
/tmp
/dev/sdb3 999320 233288 697220 26%
/boot
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684 19%
/home
/dev/sdb2 204580 20884 183696 11%
/boot/efi
tmpfs 807956 136 807820 1%
/run/user/1000
/dev/sdc1 15622672 828656 14794016 6%
/run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B

What can you suggest ?
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
thank you very much Ed,
I made the manual procedure..,
(using the shutdown -r now -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade
download --releasever=33 )
Post by Angelo Moreschini
but after I give the last command :<sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot>
\Error: system is not ready for upgrade
:-(
I remember that I renounced to upgrade to Fedora 33
because I had already this problem
...
what it is possible to do ??
Oh, so you've seen this error before?
The error message is seems rather vague. Is there anything in the journal
that may shed
some light?
How about your current disk space?
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Ed Greshko
2021-05-20 18:00:04 UTC
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Filesystem                              1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                                  4020632        0 4020632   0% /dev
tmpfs                                     4039784    21324 4018460   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs                                     4039784     1876 4037908   1% /run
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root  71724152 59738420 8299332  88% /
tmpfs                                     4039784      108 4039676   1% /tmp
/dev/sdb3                                  999320   233288  697220  26% /boot
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684  19% /home
/dev/sdb2                                  204580    20884  183696  11% /boot/efi
tmpfs                                      807956      136  807820   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdc1                                15622672   828656  14794016   6% /run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B
What can you suggest  ?
That looks fine.

I did forget to ask a question.

When you ran

sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33

What was the output after that command finished?

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Ed Greshko
2021-05-21 03:33:28 UTC
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Filesystem                              1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                                  4020632        0 4020632   0% /dev
tmpfs                                     4039784    21324 4018460   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs                                     4039784     1876 4037908   1% /run
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root  71724152 59738420 8299332  88% /
tmpfs                                     4039784      108 4039676   1% /tmp
/dev/sdb3                                  999320   233288  697220  26% /boot
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684  19% /home
/dev/sdb2                                  204580    20884  183696  11% /boot/efi
tmpfs                                      807956      136  807820   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdc1                                15622672   828656  14794016   6% /run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B
What can you suggest  ?
That looks fine.
I did forget to ask a question.
When you ran
sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33
What was the output after that command finished?
FWIW, I am upgrading an F32 VM to F33 and you should see....

Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Complete!
Transaction saved to /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/system-upgrade-transaction.json.
Download complete! Use 'dnf system-upgrade reboot' to start the upgrade.
To remove cached metadata and transaction use 'dnf system-upgrade clean'
The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful transaction.
You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'.


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Angelo Moreschini
2021-05-21 08:22:55 UTC
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reading the documentation (
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/) I see
there can be dependencies problems.
the option < --allowerasing> allows to delete SW that can give problems....

I have to try this even if it is dangerous
but before that I need a good backup of my data ... and so I have to
postpone the upgrade of fedora.

Thank you for trying to help me :-)

Angelo
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available
Use% Mounted on
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
devtmpfs 4020632 0 4020632 0%
/dev
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
tmpfs 4039784 21324 4018460 1%
/dev/shm
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
tmpfs 4039784 1876 4037908 1%
/run
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 71724152 59738420 8299332 88%
/
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
tmpfs 4039784 108 4039676 1%
/tmp
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
/dev/sdb3 999320 233288 697220 26%
/boot
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684
19% /home
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
/dev/sdb2 204580 20884 183696 11%
/boot/efi
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
tmpfs 807956 136 807820 1%
/run/user/1000
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
/dev/sdc1 15622672 828656 14794016
6% /run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B
Post by Ed Greshko
Post by Angelo Moreschini
What can you suggest ?
That looks fine.
I did forget to ask a question.
When you ran
sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33
What was the output after that command finished?
FWIW, I am upgrading an F32 VM to F33 and you should see....
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Complete!
Transaction saved to
/var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/system-upgrade-transaction.json.
Download complete! Use 'dnf system-upgrade reboot' to start the upgrade.
To remove cached metadata and transaction use 'dnf system-upgrade clean'
The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful transaction.
You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'.
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Samuel Sieb
2021-05-21 08:27:35 UTC
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
reading the documentation
(https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/>) I
see there can be dependencies problems.
the option < |--allowerasing> allows to delete SW that can  give
problems....
|
|I have to try this even if it is dangerous|
It's not really dangerous. It will show you a list of what will be
deleted and unless you've been doing strange things, it won't be
deleting anything critical. I have often had to add that option for
upgrades.
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|but before that I need a good backup of my data ... and so I have to
postpone the upgrade of fedora.|
A backup is always a good idea.
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Ed Greshko
2021-05-21 09:25:29 UTC
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reading the documentation (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/>) I see there can be dependencies problems.
the option < |--allowerasing> allows to delete SW that can  give problems....
|
|
|
|I have to try this even if it is dangerous|
|but before that I need a good backup of my data ... and so I have to postpone the upgrade of fedora.|
|
|
|Thank you for trying to help me :-)|
If you post the output showing the actual errors it will make it easier for others on the list to suggest solutions.

Ed

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Gordon Messmer
2021-05-22 20:33:02 UTC
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Post by Angelo Moreschini
(using the shutdown -r now  -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade
download --releasever=33  )
but after I give the last command :<sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot>
\Error: system is not ready for upgrade
There is a bug report that suggests that the error message you're
describing can occur if "sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot" is not the step
immediately following "sudo dnf system-upgrade download".

https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf-plugin-system-upgrade/issues/33

I don't see the output of "sudo dnf system-upgrade download
--releasever=34" on your system in this thread.  If there were conflicts
that require --allowerasing, you should see them there. Could you post
the output of the download command?  (And if it doesn't report any
errors, then run "sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot" next.)
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