JibJab - no sound - wrong sound card.

[Reg Clemens]

OK, this was working but it has stopped.

For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.

For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same behaviour.
I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.

And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably the CNN) are
connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).

Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.

So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running in
Mumph.
Grump.

[stan]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:18:54 -0600

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same
behaviour. I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably
the CNN) are connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running
in Mumph.
Grump.

You need to add something like the following to your /etc/modprobe.conf
file.

alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1

This is telling the kernel to place the sound cards in specific order.
You will have to change the sound cards above to reflect yours. The 0
card is the default.

[clemens]

Post by stan
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:18:54 -0600

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same
behaviour. I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably
the CNN) are connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running
in Mumph.
Grump.

You need to add something like the following to your /etc/modprobe.conf
file.
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1
This is telling the kernel to place the sound cards in specific order.
You will have to change the sound cards above to reflect yours. The 0
card is the default.

OK, I canwill add what you suggest:

alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-ca0106 index=0

alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd-hda-intel index=1

here is what is already there, should I modify it in any way
(or delete parts of it?)

options snd cards_limit=8
alias snd-card-0 None
options None index=0
alias snd-card-1 None
options None index=1
alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=7

and where is this explained?

[Nigel Henry]

Post by clemens

Post by stan
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:18:54 -0600

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same
behaviour. I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably
the CNN) are connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running
in Mumph.
Grump.

You need to add something like the following to your /etc/modprobe.conf
file.
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1
This is telling the kernel to place the sound cards in specific order.
You will have to change the sound cards above to reflect yours. The 0
card is the default.

alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-ca0106 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd-hda-intel index=1

alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=2

Post by clemens
here is what is already there, should I modify it in any way
(or delete parts of it?)
options snd cards_limit=8
alias snd-card-0 None
options None index=0
alias snd-card-1 None
options None index=1
alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=7
and where is this explained?

Interesting question.

Post by clemens
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Reg.Clemens
reg at dwf.com

Hi Reg. Apart from the card limit, and snd-usb-audio lines the rest is doing
zilch, and must say I've never seen an alias for a sound card before, that
says "NONE". I think I'd remove it all, and just add a couple of lines for
snd-usb-audio as above.

I've never used a card limits line, and don't believe it's necessary.

Run depmod -a as root after setting up /etc/modprobe.conf, then reboot, and
see if you have sound again.

Do a, cat /proc/asound/cards , which should show your cards in the correct
order.

Open Alsamixer as user on the CLI, which will show the default card. If you
want to see the mixer settings for the intel card, start Alsamixer as,
alsamixer -c 1

All the best.

Nigel.

[Nigel Henry]

Post by clemens

Post by stan
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:18:54 -0600

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same
behaviour. I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably
the CNN) are connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running
in Mumph.
Grump.

You need to add something like the following to your /etc/modprobe.conf
file.
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1
This is telling the kernel to place the sound cards in specific order.
You will have to change the sound cards above to reflect yours. The 0
card is the default.

alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-ca0106 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd-hda-intel index=1

alias snd-card-2 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=2

Post by clemens
here is what is already there, should I modify it in any way
(or delete parts of it?)
options snd cards_limit=8
alias snd-card-0 None
options None index=0
alias snd-card-1 None
options None index=1
alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=7
and where is this explained?

Interesting question.

Post by clemens
--
Reg.Clemens
reg at dwf.com

Hi Reg. Apart from the card limit, and snd-usb-audio lines the rest is doing
zilch, and must say I've never seen an alias for a sound card before, that
says "NONE". I think I'd remove it all, and just add a couple of lines for
snd-usb-audio as above.

I've never used a card limits line, and don't believe it's necessary.

Run depmod -a as root after setting up /etc/modprobe.conf, then reboot, and
see if you have sound again.

Do a, cat /proc/asound/cards , which should show your cards in the correct
order.

Open Alsamixer as user on the CLI, which will show the default card. If you
want to see the mixer settings for the intel card, start Alsamixer as,
alsamixer -c 1

All the best.

Nigel.

[clemens]

Post by stan
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:18:54 -0600

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same
behaviour. I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably
the CNN) are connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running
in Mumph.
Grump.

You need to add something like the following to your /etc/modprobe.conf
file.
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1
This is telling the kernel to place the sound cards in specific order.
You will have to change the sound cards above to reflect yours. The 0
card is the default.

OK, I canwill add what you suggest:

alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-ca0106 index=0

alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd-hda-intel index=1

here is what is already there, should I modify it in any way
(or delete parts of it?)

options snd cards_limit=8
alias snd-card-0 None
options None index=0
alias snd-card-1 None
options None index=1
alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=7

and where is this explained?

[Mike Burger]

I'm not 100% sure why nobody's suggested this, but...

I'm going to take a leap, here, and assume that you're not using your
onboard (Intel) sound system, since you spent the time, energy and money
to buy and install the Sound Blaster.

Why not just go into your system's BIOS setup, and turn off that sound
system? Voila...no more confusion over which sound card/subsystem to use.

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same behaviour.
I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably the CNN) are
connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running in
Mumph.
Grump.
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reg at dwf.com
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Post by Mike Burger

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same behaviour.
I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably the CNN) are
connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running in
Mumph.
Grump.
--
Reg.Clemens
reg at dwf.com

<Mikes top post reset as a bottom post, as top posting can be frowned upon>

Post by Mike Burger
I'm not 100% sure why nobody's suggested this, but...
I'm going to take a leap, here, and assume that you're not using your
onboard (Intel) sound system, since you spent the time, energy and money
to buy and install the Sound Blaster.
Why not just go into your system's BIOS setup, and turn off that sound
system? Voila...no more confusion over which sound card/subsystem to use.

Thats true, and about 4 years ago when I first started working with computers
I did something similar. I bought an Audigy2 soundblaster, and wasn't sure if
XP could do 2 soundcards, so disabled the onboard one with a jumper on the
mobo. Very soon after that I moved to Linux, and havn't turned back.

It can be usefull to have access to 2 soundcards though, in which case the
indexing options in /etc/modprobe.conf work well. For example IIRC Gene
Heskett uses one of his 2 soundcards just for Skype. That way Skype has a
soundcard all to itself, and doesn't interfere with the other soundcard which
he can use for other stuff.

I may move the jumper back to enable the onboard soundcard again, just to see
what soundcard this is, but as I have about 14 different distros running on
this machine, it may take some time to sort them all out with the newly
detected soundcard.

Nigel.

[clemens]

Post by Mike Burger
I'm going to take a leap, here, and assume that you're not using your
onboard (Intel) sound system, since you spent the time, energy and money
to buy and install the Sound Blaster.

Actually you may have hit on the reason for things working/not working/working
again.
When I first bought this Intel Motherboard (and the one before it) the onboard
stuff (sound, ethernet) didnt work since they were one step beyond what was
supported by Linux. Over time ethernet, sound, etc have come on line.

I suspect that the sound, which wasnt supported, became supported, and then
to run some specific program (VMWare) I had gone back to an old kernel
and had the intel not supported so that the sound blaster did...

Grump

[Nigel Henry]

Post by Mike Burger

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same behaviour.
I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably the CNN) are
connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running in
Mumph.
Grump.
--
Reg.Clemens
reg at dwf.com

<Mikes top post reset as a bottom post, as top posting can be frowned upon>

Post by Mike Burger
I'm not 100% sure why nobody's suggested this, but...
I'm going to take a leap, here, and assume that you're not using your
onboard (Intel) sound system, since you spent the time, energy and money
to buy and install the Sound Blaster.
Why not just go into your system's BIOS setup, and turn off that sound
system? Voila...no more confusion over which sound card/subsystem to use.

Thats true, and about 4 years ago when I first started working with computers
I did something similar. I bought an Audigy2 soundblaster, and wasn't sure if
XP could do 2 soundcards, so disabled the onboard one with a jumper on the
mobo. Very soon after that I moved to Linux, and havn't turned back.

It can be usefull to have access to 2 soundcards though, in which case the
indexing options in /etc/modprobe.conf work well. For example IIRC Gene
Heskett uses one of his 2 soundcards just for Skype. That way Skype has a
soundcard all to itself, and doesn't interfere with the other soundcard which
he can use for other stuff.

I may move the jumper back to enable the onboard soundcard again, just to see
what soundcard this is, but as I have about 14 different distros running on
this machine, it may take some time to sort them all out with the newly
detected soundcard.

Nigel.

[clemens]

Post by Mike Burger
I'm going to take a leap, here, and assume that you're not using your
onboard (Intel) sound system, since you spent the time, energy and money
to buy and install the Sound Blaster.

Actually you may have hit on the reason for things working/not working/working
again.
When I first bought this Intel Motherboard (and the one before it) the onboard
stuff (sound, ethernet) didnt work since they were one step beyond what was
supported by Linux. Over time ethernet, sound, etc have come on line.

I suspect that the sound, which wasnt supported, became supported, and then
to run some specific program (VMWare) I had gone back to an old kernel
and had the intel not supported so that the sound blaster did...

Grump

[Reg Clemens]

OK, this was working but it has stopped.

For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.

For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same behaviour.
I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.

And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably the CNN) are
connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).

Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.

So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running in
Mumph.
Grump.

[stan]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:18:54 -0600

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same
behaviour. I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably
the CNN) are connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running
in Mumph.
Grump.

You need to add something like the following to your /etc/modprobe.conf
file.

alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1

This is telling the kernel to place the sound cards in specific order.
You will have to change the sound cards above to reflect yours. The 0
card is the default.

[Mike Burger]

I'm not 100% sure why nobody's suggested this, but...

I'm going to take a leap, here, and assume that you're not using your
onboard (Intel) sound system, since you spent the time, energy and money
to buy and install the Sound Blaster.

Why not just go into your system's BIOS setup, and turn off that sound
system? Voila...no more confusion over which sound card/subsystem to use.

Post by Reg Clemens
OK, this was working but it has stopped.
For a long time videos on CNN had never worked.
Then, several weeks ago they started working.
And then several weeks more and the AUDIO stopped but the video was fine.
For some reason, today I decided to go to jibjab, and lo, the same behaviour.
I see the video, but no audio. Now this has ALWAYS worked.
And my suspision is that I have a built in sound card (intel) on the
motherboard,
and add on sound card (sound blaster) and the jibjab (and probably the CNN) are
connecting to the WRONG ONE (the intel).
Changing the connection to the other output, and lo I have audio.
So how do I tell the world which is the default sound card?
Or how do I tell individual programs what is the default sound card?
I dont see anything in jibjab nor in the netscape that it is running in
Mumph.
Grump.
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