Discussion:
French/Spanish/German accents in Fedora with US Keyboard
Didier Casse
2004-04-13 02:36:25 UTC
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Hello all,
Does anybody know how to configure Fedora Linux such that I can
compose mails (pine) or documents and inserting French/Spanish/German
accents? Right now when I try to paste somme accents in my Eterm/xterm, it
gives me some junk!

How do I insert the accents?

Btw I have a US keyboard so please don't tell me to configure for other
keyboards! Thanks.


With kind regards,

Didier.

---
PhD student.

Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603.

Email: didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg

Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg
Rodolfo J. Paiz
2004-04-13 04:44:11 UTC
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Post by Didier Casse
Does anybody know how to configure Fedora Linux such that I can
compose mails (pine) or documents and inserting French/Spanish/German
accents? Right now when I try to paste somme accents in my Eterm/xterm, it
gives me some junk!
How do I insert the accents?
Btw I have a US keyboard so please don't tell me to configure for other
keyboards! Thanks.
Easy as pie. Set up your keyboard as type "us" with layout "us-acentos". In
the graphical world, this is called "enabling dead keys." Done.

Those keys which represent accents like ' and " and ` and ~ and ^ will now
be "dead keys." This means that nothing will happen if you press them
once... the system will wait to see what key you press next. If you then
press an "a" for example, you will get ? or ? or ? or ?. Pressing ~ then n
will get you ?. The German umlaut (sp?) is achieved with the double-quote
dead key, then the vowel.

In order to output the bare symbols like ' and " and ~, you press the dead
key and then a space. Seems cumbersome at first, but get a little practice
and your fingers will learn the moves very quickly. Works like a charm, and
is the reason why I refuse to accept a computer with *any* layout other
than US... configuring any other "international" keyboard is a bitch since
you never know what kind it's supposed to be, and making it work becomes a
lengthy, painful process of trial and error.

Cheers,
--
Rodolfo J. Paiz
rpaiz at simpaticus.com
http://www.simpaticus.com
Didier Casse
2004-04-13 05:40:02 UTC
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Post by Rodolfo J. Paiz
Post by Didier Casse
Does anybody know how to configure Fedora Linux such that I can
compose mails (pine) or documents and inserting French/Spanish/German
accents? Right now when I try to paste somme accents in my Eterm/xterm, it
gives me some junk!
How do I insert the accents?
Btw I have a US keyboard so please don't tell me to configure for other
keyboards! Thanks.
Easy as pie. Set up your keyboard as type "us" with layout "us-acentos". In
the graphical world, this is called "enabling dead keys." Done.
I guess you mean in /etc/X11/XF86Config, something like


Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us-acentos"
EndSection
Post by Rodolfo J. Paiz
Those keys which represent accents like ' and " and ` and ~ and ^ will now
be "dead keys." This means that nothing will happen if you press them
once... the system will wait to see what key you press next. If you then
press an "a" for example, you will get ? or ? or ? or ?. Pressing ~ then n
will get you ?. The German umlaut (sp?) is achieved with the double-quote
dead key, then the vowel.
In order to output the bare symbols like ' and " and ~, you press the dead
key and then a space. Seems cumbersome at first, but get a little practice
and your fingers will learn the moves very quickly. Works like a charm, and
is the reason why I refuse to accept a computer with *any* layout other
than US... configuring any other "international" keyboard is a bitch since
you never know what kind it's supposed to be, and making it work becomes a
lengthy, painful process of trial and error.
Alright. Now I understand the article

http://www.linuxgazette.com/book/view/238

It didn't explain too much how to really activate the dead keys. Thanks a
lot Rodolfo. I'll try it out. :-p


With kind regards,

Didier.

---
PhD student.

Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603

Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg /
didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg

Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg
Didier Casse
2004-04-13 10:22:37 UTC
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On 13/04/04, at 13:40 +0800, Didier Casse <didierbe_AT_sps.nus.edu.sg>
Post by Didier Casse
I guess you mean in /etc/X11/XF86Config, something like
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us-acentos"
EndSection
Hmm sorry I realized that in /etc/X11/XF86Config:

---------------------------------------------------
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"

---------------------------------------------------

and in
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard:

---------------------------
KEYBOARDTYPE="pc"
KEYTABLE="us-acentos"

---------------------------


This should work!





With kind regards,

Didier.

---
PhD student.

Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603

Email: didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg

Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg
Didier Casse
2004-04-13 02:36:25 UTC
Permalink
Hello all,
Does anybody know how to configure Fedora Linux such that I can
compose mails (pine) or documents and inserting French/Spanish/German
accents? Right now when I try to paste somme accents in my Eterm/xterm, it
gives me some junk!

How do I insert the accents?

Btw I have a US keyboard so please don't tell me to configure for other
keyboards! Thanks.


With kind regards,

Didier.

---
PhD student.

Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603.

Email: didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg

Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg
Rodolfo J. Paiz
2004-04-13 04:44:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Didier Casse
Does anybody know how to configure Fedora Linux such that I can
compose mails (pine) or documents and inserting French/Spanish/German
accents? Right now when I try to paste somme accents in my Eterm/xterm, it
gives me some junk!
How do I insert the accents?
Btw I have a US keyboard so please don't tell me to configure for other
keyboards! Thanks.
Easy as pie. Set up your keyboard as type "us" with layout "us-acentos". In
the graphical world, this is called "enabling dead keys." Done.

Those keys which represent accents like ' and " and ` and ~ and ^ will now
be "dead keys." This means that nothing will happen if you press them
once... the system will wait to see what key you press next. If you then
press an "a" for example, you will get ? or ? or ? or ?. Pressing ~ then n
will get you ?. The German umlaut (sp?) is achieved with the double-quote
dead key, then the vowel.

In order to output the bare symbols like ' and " and ~, you press the dead
key and then a space. Seems cumbersome at first, but get a little practice
and your fingers will learn the moves very quickly. Works like a charm, and
is the reason why I refuse to accept a computer with *any* layout other
than US... configuring any other "international" keyboard is a bitch since
you never know what kind it's supposed to be, and making it work becomes a
lengthy, painful process of trial and error.

Cheers,
--
Rodolfo J. Paiz
rpaiz at simpaticus.com
http://www.simpaticus.com
Didier Casse
2004-04-13 05:40:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rodolfo J. Paiz
Post by Didier Casse
Does anybody know how to configure Fedora Linux such that I can
compose mails (pine) or documents and inserting French/Spanish/German
accents? Right now when I try to paste somme accents in my Eterm/xterm, it
gives me some junk!
How do I insert the accents?
Btw I have a US keyboard so please don't tell me to configure for other
keyboards! Thanks.
Easy as pie. Set up your keyboard as type "us" with layout "us-acentos". In
the graphical world, this is called "enabling dead keys." Done.
I guess you mean in /etc/X11/XF86Config, something like


Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us-acentos"
EndSection
Post by Rodolfo J. Paiz
Those keys which represent accents like ' and " and ` and ~ and ^ will now
be "dead keys." This means that nothing will happen if you press them
once... the system will wait to see what key you press next. If you then
press an "a" for example, you will get ? or ? or ? or ?. Pressing ~ then n
will get you ?. The German umlaut (sp?) is achieved with the double-quote
dead key, then the vowel.
In order to output the bare symbols like ' and " and ~, you press the dead
key and then a space. Seems cumbersome at first, but get a little practice
and your fingers will learn the moves very quickly. Works like a charm, and
is the reason why I refuse to accept a computer with *any* layout other
than US... configuring any other "international" keyboard is a bitch since
you never know what kind it's supposed to be, and making it work becomes a
lengthy, painful process of trial and error.
Alright. Now I understand the article

http://www.linuxgazette.com/book/view/238

It didn't explain too much how to really activate the dead keys. Thanks a
lot Rodolfo. I'll try it out. :-p


With kind regards,

Didier.

---
PhD student.

Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603

Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg /
didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg

Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg
Didier Casse
2004-04-13 10:22:37 UTC
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On 13/04/04, at 13:40 +0800, Didier Casse <didierbe_AT_sps.nus.edu.sg>
Post by Didier Casse
I guess you mean in /etc/X11/XF86Config, something like
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us-acentos"
EndSection
Hmm sorry I realized that in /etc/X11/XF86Config:

---------------------------------------------------
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"

---------------------------------------------------

and in
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard:

---------------------------
KEYBOARDTYPE="pc"
KEYTABLE="us-acentos"

---------------------------


This should work!





With kind regards,

Didier.

---
PhD student.

Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
5 Research Link,
Singapore 117603

Email: didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg

Web: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg

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