using VNC on Fedora

[Claude Jones]

I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?

[Ed Greshko]

Post by Claude Jones
I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?

Did you kill and restart the vncserver after making changes?
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"For the man who has everything... Penicillin." -- F. Borquin
Mei-Mei.Greshko at greshko.com

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[John Aldrich]

For the OP, here's a copy of my ~/.vnc/xstartup file which works great:

#!/bin/sh

# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session

[end xstartup]

Note: I don't care for the way KDE is doing things in KDE4.0, so I'm
switching to Gnome for my window manager for now. I can still run all my
KDE apps but using Gnome for my window manager. Don't know what you prefer
for your WM, but you can replace the "exec gnome-session" with whatever you
use to start your preferred WM. Note the commented out "exec
/usr/bin/startkde" as an example of how another window manager can be
called.

[Claude Jones]

Post by John Aldrich
#!/bin/sh
# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session
[end xstartup]

Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it didn't
seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and errored out.
I switched to the exact suggestion you make above, and it worked, but not
before doing what Ed suggested, killing and restarting the VNCServer.

If I may, another question that is on my topic:
Are there any other VNC apps that work in F10. Specifically, I would like a
viewer that remembered the connections I've made, so I wouldn't have to type
all that IP info in each time, or maybe there's a way to make the VNC viewer
do it that I haven't discovered - I did go through all the options...

[Craig White]

Post by Claude Jones

Post by John Aldrich
#!/bin/sh
# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session
[end xstartup]

Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it didn't
seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and errored out.
I switched to the exact suggestion you make above, and it worked, but not
before doing what Ed suggested, killing and restarting the VNCServer.
Are there any other VNC apps that work in F10. Specifically, I would like a
viewer that remembered the connections I've made, so I wouldn't have to type
all that IP info in each time, or maybe there's a way to make the VNC viewer
do it that I haven't discovered - I did go through all the options...

----
I have found that once I switched to freenx, VNC no longer interested
me.

By the way, the TSClient application on F10 saves each connection to its
own connection document - pretty much giving you what you want.

Craig

[Claude Jones]

Post by Craig White
I have found that once I switched to freenx, VNC no longer interested
me.
By the way, the TSClient application on F10 saves each connection to its
own connection document - pretty much giving you what you want.

Now that I get VNC working.............!
OK, I went and looked, and it DOES look interesting, and better - I'll work on
it later - thanks to all for the help and comments

[Claude Jones]

Post by Craig White
I have found that once I switched to freenx, VNC no longer interested
me.
By the way, the TSClient application on F10 saves each connection to its
own connection document - pretty much giving you what you want.

Now that I get VNC working.............!
OK, I went and looked, and it DOES look interesting, and better - I'll work on
it later - thanks to all for the help and comments

[Kevin Kofler]

Post by Claude Jones
Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it
didn't seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and
errored out.

You could use Krfb to share your existing KDE session over VNC.

Kevin Kofler

[Craig White]

Post by Claude Jones

Post by John Aldrich
#!/bin/sh
# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session
[end xstartup]

Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it didn't
seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and errored out.
I switched to the exact suggestion you make above, and it worked, but not
before doing what Ed suggested, killing and restarting the VNCServer.
Are there any other VNC apps that work in F10. Specifically, I would like a
viewer that remembered the connections I've made, so I wouldn't have to type
all that IP info in each time, or maybe there's a way to make the VNC viewer
do it that I haven't discovered - I did go through all the options...

----
I have found that once I switched to freenx, VNC no longer interested
me.

By the way, the TSClient application on F10 saves each connection to its
own connection document - pretty much giving you what you want.

Craig

[Kevin Kofler]

Post by Claude Jones
Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it
didn't seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and
errored out.

You could use Krfb to share your existing KDE session over VNC.

Kevin Kofler

[Claude Jones]

Post by John Aldrich
#!/bin/sh
# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session
[end xstartup]

Thanks to you and Ed. I tried to use KDE using your suggestion, but, it didn't
seem to like that my regular session was already running KDE, and errored out.
I switched to the exact suggestion you make above, and it worked, but not
before doing what Ed suggested, killing and restarting the VNCServer.

If I may, another question that is on my topic:
Are there any other VNC apps that work in F10. Specifically, I would like a
viewer that remembered the connections I've made, so I wouldn't have to type
all that IP info in each time, or maybe there's a way to make the VNC viewer
do it that I haven't discovered - I did go through all the options...

[John Aldrich]

For the OP, here's a copy of my ~/.vnc/xstartup file which works great:

#!/bin/sh

# Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script
unset SESSION_MANAGER
#exec /usr/bin/startkde
exec gnome-session

[end xstartup]

Note: I don't care for the way KDE is doing things in KDE4.0, so I'm
switching to Gnome for my window manager for now. I can still run all my
KDE apps but using Gnome for my window manager. Don't know what you prefer
for your WM, but you can replace the "exec gnome-session" with whatever you
use to start your preferred WM. Note the commented out "exec
/usr/bin/startkde" as an example of how another window manager can be
called.

[Ulissis Gomes Correa]

Post by Claude Jones
I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?
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Claude Jones
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Take a look at http://fedora.co.in/2007/12/01/how-to-configure-vncserver
, maybe this can help you...

[Aaron Konstam]

Post by Claude Jones
I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?
--
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD

Look at System->Preferences->Internet and Network->Remote Desktop
In f9 at least it will allow you to set up a vncserver that will do what
you want. Maybe it is similar in F10.
--
=======================================================================
Involvement with people is always a very delicate thing -- it requires
real maturity to become involved and not get all messed up. -- Bernard
Cooke
=======================================================================
Aaron Konstam telephone: [phone] e-mail: akonstam at sbcglobal.net

[Claude Jones]

I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?

[Ed Greshko]

Post by Claude Jones
I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?

Did you kill and restart the vncserver after making changes?
--
"For the man who has everything... Penicillin." -- F. Borquin
Mei-Mei.Greshko at greshko.com http://youtu.be/cCSz_koUhSg

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[Ulissis Gomes Correa]

Post by Claude Jones
I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?
--
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD
--
fedora-list mailing list
fedora-list at redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Take a look at http://fedora.co.in/2007/12/01/how-to-configure-vncserver
, maybe this can help you...

[Aaron Konstam]

Post by Claude Jones
I'm stumbling a bit here, as I'm familiar with VNC under Windows. There, when
I connect to a machine running VNCServer, I am presented with the running
desktop and full access to all programs, the start menu, everything; I've just
set up VNCServer on my F10 box and connected to it from another F10 box, and
I'm being presented with a window inside of which is a terminal window, and
that's it. There appears to be no difference between doing this, and just
ssh'ing into the box via a command prompt. I looked at the configuration file
and uncommented the two lines it says to uncomment "for normal desktop", but,
nothing appears to have changed. I'm reading up on this as I type, but, can
someone with more experience tell me if I can eventually expect to have the
same command over the VNCServer machine as I can in Windows, or does VNC just
offer much less capability in Linux?
--
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD

Look at System->Preferences->Internet and Network->Remote Desktop
In f9 at least it will allow you to set up a vncserver that will do what
you want. Maybe it is similar in F10.
--
=======================================================================
Involvement with people is always a very delicate thing -- it requires
real maturity to become involved and not get all messed up. -- Bernard
Cooke
=======================================================================
Aaron Konstam telephone: [phone] e-mail: akonstam at sbcglobal.net