Discussion:
1152x870 display resolution
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 15:32:25 UTC
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I have a IBM P70 Monitor that notifies via DCC to XFree86 that this
resolution is available, I have added it to the "modes" line, but
XFree86 refuses to use it as informed on the log file. The max
resolution that i can get is 1024x768. Using RH9 I was able to use
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?

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Andy Green
2003-11-14 15:40:49 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Look closely at your /etc/X11/XF86Config file... the

HorizSync and
VertRefresh

guys in the Monitor section have a major influence on what display mode you
can have. Also examine the /var/log/XFree86.0.log... it should list the
default resolutions and give reasons why they weren't used, eg, (vrefresh out
of range) for example.

- -Andy
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 16:17:48 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Look closely at your /etc/X11/XF86Config file... the
HorizSync and
VertRefresh
guys in the Monitor section have a major influence on what display mode you
can have. Also examine the /var/log/XFree86.0.log... it should list the
default resolutions and give reasons why they weren't used, eg, (vrefresh out
of range) for example.
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)

I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works

Thanks in advance

-- snip --

(II) I810(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) I810(0): 720x400 at 70Hz
(II) I810(0): 720x400 at 88Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 60Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 67Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 72Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 56Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 60Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 72Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 832x624 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 87Hz (interlaced)
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 60Hz
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 70Hz
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 1280x1024 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 1152x870 at 75Hz

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(II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 29.00-82.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-120.00 Hz
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
(II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for
virtual size)
(II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (width too large for
virtual size)
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1024x768"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "800x600"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "640x480"
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 85Hz refresh for mode "1024x768" (54)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 85Hz refresh for mode "800x600" (52)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 85Hz refresh for mode "640x480" (50)

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Andy Green
2003-11-14 16:36:05 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.

Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?

- -Andy
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 16:51:02 UTC
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I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
I mean than on RH9 it worked and that the slow refresh rate was
unnoticeable (sorry for my bad English)
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
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Felix Miata
2003-11-14 17:23:09 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
I mean than on RH9 it worked and that the slow refresh rate was
unnoticeable (sorry for my bad English)
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
I've never seen 1152x870 on any system. Standard aspect is 4/3. That's
what 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, 1400x1050 and 1600x1200 are. 1280x1024
is a bastard child 5/4 ratio. 1152 wide should be 864 high, which is one
option on some of my systems. Have you tried 1152x864? How about
1280x960, which is also 4/3?
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Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 17:50:43 UTC
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Post by Felix Miata
Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
I mean than on RH9 it worked and that the slow refresh rate was
unnoticeable (sorry for my bad English)
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
I've never seen 1152x870 on any system. Standard aspect is 4/3. That's
what 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, 1400x1050 and 1600x1200 are. 1280x1024
is a bastard child 5/4 ratio. 1152 wide should be 864 high, which is one
option on some of my systems. Have you tried 1152x864? How about
1280x960, which is also 4/3?
Yes I tried them using the redhat-config-xfree program, it didn't work.
I began to try with 1152x870 because the monitor notifies about this
capability to xfree, not 1152x864 that if i remember correctly was the
option on RH9 that I was using
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 17:50:43 UTC
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Post by Felix Miata
Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
I mean than on RH9 it worked and that the slow refresh rate was
unnoticeable (sorry for my bad English)
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
I've never seen 1152x870 on any system. Standard aspect is 4/3. That's
what 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, 1400x1050 and 1600x1200 are. 1280x1024
is a bastard child 5/4 ratio. 1152 wide should be 864 high, which is one
option on some of my systems. Have you tried 1152x864? How about
1280x960, which is also 4/3?
Yes I tried them using the redhat-config-xfree program, it didn't work.
I began to try with 1152x870 because the monitor notifies about this
capability to xfree, not 1152x864 that if i remember correctly was the
option on RH9 that I was using
J. Scott Amort
2003-11-14 18:34:23 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
Make sure this modeline is also referenced in your screen section.

Section "Screen"
(other stuff...)
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24 (or whatever you have it set to)
Modes "1152x870" <-- make sure this is here
with whichever others you
may want to have available
EndSubSection
EndSection

I believe X will default to the highest resolution in the Modes line, so
you may want to leave out anything higher than 1152x870, or else there
may be another step involved to set that one as your preferred
resolution. Good luck!

Regards,

Scott

PS Check out the gtf command to determine the modeline for defining
different refresh rates for that resolution as well.
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 20:36:36 UTC
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Post by J. Scott Amort
Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
Make sure this modeline is also referenced in your screen section.
Yes it is referenced there
Post by J. Scott Amort
Section "Screen"
(other stuff...)
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24 (or whatever you have it set to)
Modes "1152x870" <-- make sure this is here
with whichever others you
may want to have available
EndSubSection
EndSection
I believe X will default to the highest resolution in the Modes line, so
you may want to leave out anything higher than 1152x870, or else there
may be another step involved to set that one as your preferred
resolution. Good luck!
Regards,
Scott
PS Check out the gtf command to determine the modeline for defining
different refresh rates for that resolution as well.
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Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 20:36:36 UTC
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Post by J. Scott Amort
Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
Make sure this modeline is also referenced in your screen section.
Yes it is referenced there
Post by J. Scott Amort
Section "Screen"
(other stuff...)
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24 (or whatever you have it set to)
Modes "1152x870" <-- make sure this is here
with whichever others you
may want to have available
EndSubSection
EndSection
I believe X will default to the highest resolution in the Modes line, so
you may want to leave out anything higher than 1152x870, or else there
may be another step involved to set that one as your preferred
resolution. Good luck!
Regards,
Scott
PS Check out the gtf command to determine the modeline for defining
different refresh rates for that resolution as well.
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Kevin Street
2003-11-15 16:10:34 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
I'm using this:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 48.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

I put these HorizSync and VertRefresh numbers in by hand based on the
P70 manual that I got with my monitor. I'm not sure where the original
29-82 kHz and 50-120 Hz numbers are generated but they don't match the
book. My monitor works fine and has not (yet) lit itself on fire.
YMMV. I normally use 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz, which is fine for my eyes.

xrandr says I can get these modes and refresh rates:

SZ: Pixels Physical Refresh
*0 1280 x 1024 ( 332mm x 241mm ) *75 60
1 1152 x 864 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
2 1024 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
3 800 x 600 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 65 60 56
4 1280 x 960 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
5 1152 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
6 896 x 672 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
7 832 x 624 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
8 700 x 525 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74 70 59
9 640 x 512 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 75 60
10 640 x 480 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
11 720 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
12 640 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
13 576 x 432 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
14 640 x 350 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
15 576 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
16 512 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
17 416 x 312 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
18 400 x 300 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60 56
19 320 x 240 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
20 360 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
21 320 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
22 320 x 175 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85

I'm using the top four in my XF86Config:

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Robert Marcano
2003-11-17 13:00:24 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 48.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection
I put these HorizSync and VertRefresh numbers in by hand based on the
P70 manual that I got with my monitor. I'm not sure where the original
29-82 kHz and 50-120 Hz numbers are generated but they don't match the
book. My monitor works fine and has not (yet) lit itself on fire.
YMMV. I normally use 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz, which is fine for my eyes.
Thanks for you help but that didn't workout, I detected that the problem
is related to the Intel 845 video bios that does not allow this
resolution, someone upgraded the BIOS before I installed fedora, I found
in google that Intel windows drivers do some tricks to bypass the bios
restrictions but the XFree86 driver is not able to do that
Post by Robert Marcano
SZ: Pixels Physical Refresh
*0 1280 x 1024 ( 332mm x 241mm ) *75 60
1 1152 x 864 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
2 1024 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
3 800 x 600 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 65 60 56
4 1280 x 960 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
5 1152 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
6 896 x 672 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
7 832 x 624 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
8 700 x 525 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74 70 59
9 640 x 512 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 75 60
10 640 x 480 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
11 720 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
12 640 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
13 576 x 432 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
14 640 x 350 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
15 576 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
16 512 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
17 416 x 312 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
18 400 x 300 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60 56
19 320 x 240 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
20 360 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
21 320 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
22 320 x 175 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Robert Marcano
2003-11-17 13:00:24 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 48.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection
I put these HorizSync and VertRefresh numbers in by hand based on the
P70 manual that I got with my monitor. I'm not sure where the original
29-82 kHz and 50-120 Hz numbers are generated but they don't match the
book. My monitor works fine and has not (yet) lit itself on fire.
YMMV. I normally use 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz, which is fine for my eyes.
Thanks for you help but that didn't workout, I detected that the problem
is related to the Intel 845 video bios that does not allow this
resolution, someone upgraded the BIOS before I installed fedora, I found
in google that Intel windows drivers do some tricks to bypass the bios
restrictions but the XFree86 driver is not able to do that
Post by Robert Marcano
SZ: Pixels Physical Refresh
*0 1280 x 1024 ( 332mm x 241mm ) *75 60
1 1152 x 864 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
2 1024 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
3 800 x 600 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 65 60 56
4 1280 x 960 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
5 1152 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
6 896 x 672 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
7 832 x 624 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
8 700 x 525 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74 70 59
9 640 x 512 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 75 60
10 640 x 480 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
11 720 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
12 640 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
13 576 x 432 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
14 640 x 350 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
15 576 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
16 512 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
17 416 x 312 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
18 400 x 300 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60 56
19 320 x 240 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
20 360 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
21 320 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
22 320 x 175 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Felix Miata
2003-11-14 17:23:09 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
I mean than on RH9 it worked and that the slow refresh rate was
unnoticeable (sorry for my bad English)
Post by Andy Green
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
I've never seen 1152x870 on any system. Standard aspect is 4/3. That's
what 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, 1400x1050 and 1600x1200 are. 1280x1024
is a bastard child 5/4 ratio. 1152 wide should be 864 high, which is one
option on some of my systems. Have you tried 1152x864? How about
1280x960, which is also 4/3?
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Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
J. Scott Amort
2003-11-14 18:34:23 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
Post by Andy Green
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
Make sure this modeline is also referenced in your screen section.

Section "Screen"
(other stuff...)
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24 (or whatever you have it set to)
Modes "1152x870" <-- make sure this is here
with whichever others you
may want to have available
EndSubSection
EndSection

I believe X will default to the highest resolution in the Modes line, so
you may want to leave out anything higher than 1152x870, or else there
may be another step involved to set that one as your preferred
resolution. Good luck!

Regards,

Scott

PS Check out the gtf command to determine the modeline for defining
different refresh rates for that resolution as well.
Kevin Street
2003-11-15 16:10:34 UTC
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Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection
I'm using this:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 48.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

I put these HorizSync and VertRefresh numbers in by hand based on the
P70 manual that I got with my monitor. I'm not sure where the original
29-82 kHz and 50-120 Hz numbers are generated but they don't match the
book. My monitor works fine and has not (yet) lit itself on fire.
YMMV. I normally use 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz, which is fine for my eyes.

xrandr says I can get these modes and refresh rates:

SZ: Pixels Physical Refresh
*0 1280 x 1024 ( 332mm x 241mm ) *75 60
1 1152 x 864 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
2 1024 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
3 800 x 600 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 65 60 56
4 1280 x 960 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
5 1152 x 768 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
6 896 x 672 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 60
7 832 x 624 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
8 700 x 525 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74 70 59
9 640 x 512 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 75 60
10 640 x 480 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
11 720 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
12 640 x 400 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
13 576 x 432 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75
14 640 x 350 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
15 576 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 54
16 512 x 384 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 84 75 70 60 87
17 416 x 312 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 74
18 400 x 300 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60 56
19 320 x 240 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85 75 72 60
20 360 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
21 320 x 200 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85
22 320 x 175 ( 332mm x 241mm ) 85

I'm using the top four in my XF86Config:

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 16:51:02 UTC
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I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
I mean than on RH9 it worked and that the slow refresh rate was
unnoticeable (sorry for my bad English)
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.
Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "IBM P70"
DisplaySize 330 240
HorizSync 29.0 - 82.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0
Option "dpms"
UseModes "P70Modes"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "P70Modes"
Modeline "1152x870" 78.09 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
#Modeline "1152x870" 84.52 1152 1168 1384 1568 870 870 878 909
EndSection
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Robert Marcano
Andy Green
2003-11-14 16:36:05 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)
unnoticeable... ie, doesn't work?
Post by Robert Marcano
I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
My guess is this is telling you what you need to know... XF86 can't see your
modeline by the look of things.

Where did you put the modeline statement and what does it say?

- -Andy
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 16:17:48 UTC
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bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Look closely at your /etc/X11/XF86Config file... the
HorizSync and
VertRefresh
guys in the Monitor section have a major influence on what display mode you
can have. Also examine the /var/log/XFree86.0.log... it should list the
default resolutions and give reasons why they weren't used, eg, (vrefresh out
of range) for example.
I correct my previous post, i am able to use 1280x1024 but nothing
between 1024x768 and 1280x1024 (1280x1024 has a slow refresh rate on
this monitor, but at 1152x870 is unnoticeable)

I tried adding ModeLines but it didn't works

Thanks in advance

-- snip --

(II) I810(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) I810(0): 720x400 at 70Hz
(II) I810(0): 720x400 at 88Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 60Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 67Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 72Hz
(II) I810(0): 640x480 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 56Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 60Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 72Hz
(II) I810(0): 800x600 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 832x624 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 87Hz (interlaced)
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 60Hz
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 70Hz
(II) I810(0): 1024x768 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 1280x1024 at 75Hz
(II) I810(0): 1152x870 at 75Hz

-- snip --

(II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 29.00-82.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-120.00 Hz
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x870" (no mode of this name)
(II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for
virtual size)
(II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (width too large for
virtual size)
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1024x768"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "800x600"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "640x480"
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 85Hz refresh for mode "1024x768" (54)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 85Hz refresh for mode "800x600" (52)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 85Hz refresh for mode "640x480" (50)

-- snip --
- -Andy
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Rick Johnson
2003-11-14 18:18:40 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
I have a IBM P70 Monitor that notifies via DCC to XFree86 that this
resolution is available, I have added it to the "modes" line, but
XFree86 refuses to use it as informed on the log file. The max
resolution that i can get is 1024x768. Using RH9 I was able to use
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Try using 1152x864 instead. 870 adds and extra 6 lines which some drivers
may not support.

1280x960 is another 4:3 mode which I find enjoyable (1280x1024 is 5:4, and
on regular screens, looks "funny" since it's vertically compressed).

-Rick
--
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Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc.
PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 19:29:36 UTC
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Post by Rick Johnson
Post by Robert Marcano
I have a IBM P70 Monitor that notifies via DCC to XFree86 that this
resolution is available, I have added it to the "modes" line, but
XFree86 refuses to use it as informed on the log file. The max
resolution that i can get is 1024x768. Using RH9 I was able to use
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Try using 1152x864 instead. 870 adds and extra 6 lines which some drivers
may not support.
I tried, but XFree refuses to use it

(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (no mode of this name)

In RH9 I was able to use all the resolutions defined in
redhat-config-xfree86 from 640x480 up to 1280x1024 without messing the
XF86Config file. In Fedora i am not able to use 1152x864 neither
1280x960.
Post by Rick Johnson
1280x960 is another 4:3 mode which I find enjoyable (1280x1024 is 5:4, and
on regular screens, looks "funny" since it's vertically compressed).
-Rick
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Robert Marcano
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 19:29:36 UTC
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Post by Rick Johnson
Post by Robert Marcano
I have a IBM P70 Monitor that notifies via DCC to XFree86 that this
resolution is available, I have added it to the "modes" line, but
XFree86 refuses to use it as informed on the log file. The max
resolution that i can get is 1024x768. Using RH9 I was able to use
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Try using 1152x864 instead. 870 adds and extra 6 lines which some drivers
may not support.
I tried, but XFree refuses to use it

(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (no mode of this name)

In RH9 I was able to use all the resolutions defined in
redhat-config-xfree86 from 640x480 up to 1280x1024 without messing the
XF86Config file. In Fedora i am not able to use 1152x864 neither
1280x960.
Post by Rick Johnson
1280x960 is another 4:3 mode which I find enjoyable (1280x1024 is 5:4, and
on regular screens, looks "funny" since it's vertically compressed).
-Rick
--
Robert Marcano
Robert Marcano
2003-11-14 15:32:25 UTC
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I have a IBM P70 Monitor that notifies via DCC to XFree86 that this
resolution is available, I have added it to the "modes" line, but
XFree86 refuses to use it as informed on the log file. The max
resolution that i can get is 1024x768. Using RH9 I was able to use
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?

--
Robert
Andy Green
2003-11-14 15:40:49 UTC
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Post by Robert Marcano
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Look closely at your /etc/X11/XF86Config file... the

HorizSync and
VertRefresh

guys in the Monitor section have a major influence on what display mode you
can have. Also examine the /var/log/XFree86.0.log... it should list the
default resolutions and give reasons why they weren't used, eg, (vrefresh out
of range) for example.

- -Andy
Rick Johnson
2003-11-14 18:18:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Marcano
I have a IBM P70 Monitor that notifies via DCC to XFree86 that this
resolution is available, I have added it to the "modes" line, but
XFree86 refuses to use it as informed on the log file. The max
resolution that i can get is 1024x768. Using RH9 I was able to use
bigger resolutions with the same hardware, Do anybody has an idea how to
solve this problem?
Try using 1152x864 instead. 870 adds and extra 6 lines which some drivers
may not support.

1280x960 is another 4:3 mode which I find enjoyable (1280x1024 is 5:4, and
on regular screens, looks "funny" since it's vertically compressed).

-Rick
--
Rick Johnson, RHCE #807302311706007 - rjohnson at medata.com
Linux/Network Administrator - Medata, Inc.
PGP Public Key: https://mail.medata.com/pgp/rjohnson.asc
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